 |
The Tai Chi Healthways Discussion Board A place to ask questions and discuss Tai Chi.
|
| Welcome |
|
|
Welcome to The Tai Chi Healthways Discussion Board.
You are currently viewing our boards as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content, and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple, and absolutely free, so please, join our community today! |
| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
jb
Joined: 02 Jan 2008 Posts: 146
|
Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 11:05 pm Post subject: teaching tai chi |
|
|
Dear Jesse & Healthways People,
I have been learning Yang 24 simplified Beijing style for 18 months and using Li Deyin's book & video as my guides, plus a few of your DVDs. I go to two Yang 24 Taiji classes per week.
Recently a society attached to the university has asked me to teach their members tai chi.
Although I have experience teaching Business Communications Skills, I have not taught tai chi.
I would appreciate your recommendations on class design etc.
JB
Last edited by jb on Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:05 pm; edited 1 time in total |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
taichitsao Site Admin
Joined: 02 Jan 2008 Posts: 13
|
Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:32 am Post subject: |
|
|
JB,
The Simplified Tai Chi Form 24 is a good routine to teach beginners. It is the most popular routine in the world now.
But I would like you to start with some fundamentals, basic arm and hand movements, as well as some lower center stepping training. Not get to the routine right away. You need make the class simple and students get the feeling first, in stead of struggle with the memory of the routine. Also, beginners will improve their balance in stepping training.
Depend on the ages of your group, you may teach a little self-defense aspect of tai chi to keep young people's interest; teach the self-healing aspect to retired people for the benefit of wellness and longevity!  ....
|
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
alain

Joined: 02 Jan 2008 Posts: 65 Location: San Diego, CA
|
Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 4:57 am Post subject: |
|
|
Hello JB,
Usually, we start the class with some warmup and few stretches or some qigong. It also depends on the level of fitness of your students. Since it may be in a work setting, you can't really ask people dressed for work to warmup too much
Then, we usually do the part of the form that we already know, several times if we know only the first few postures. Then, we can go for questions from students.
After that, we learn the next posture (or two if they are simple) in the sequence. Then we repeat the last posture, or a short sequence as many times as required.
Then warm down, simple qigong moves to end the class.
One thing: Taiji is mostly about relaxing and releasing the tensions. A good mood and some laughter is always good. Stay focussed, but don't take it too seriously either
Hope that helps.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
taichitsao Site Admin
Joined: 02 Jan 2008 Posts: 13
|
Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 12:32 am Post subject: |
|
|
Alain is right, it is important to keep your class enjoyable and feel the good Qi!!
|
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
feihu
Joined: 02 Jan 2008 Posts: 79
|
Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 1:13 am Post subject: Re: teaching tai chi |
|
|
| jb wrote: |
Dear Jesse & Healthways People,
I have been learning Yang 24 simplified Beijing style for 18 months and using Li Deyin's book & video as my guides, plus a few of your DVDs.
Recently a society attached to the university has asked me to teach their members tai chi.
Although I have experience teaching Business Communications Skills, I have not taught tai chi.
I would appreciate your recommendations on class design etc.
JB |
Hi JB,
You mention that you have been learning for 18 months and I was curious to know if you are taking a class or strictly learning from books, video, and DVDs?
TIA,
Feihu (Jim)
|
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Maria
Joined: 03 Jan 2008 Posts: 162
|
Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 6:45 am Post subject: |
|
|
 Hi Feihu,
I am not JB but I think you could be interested.
I am practicing with the DVD of Master Tsao only, I go to workshops and I study the theory with the books of Grand Master Chen Zhenglei.
I like that way of studying because I can stay at home and practice as often as I want and the workshops with masters help me to correct some fundamental position.
To study the theory first is the best way to improve the practice.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
zinzivi
Joined: 05 Jan 2008 Posts: 1
|
Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 7:16 am Post subject: hi feihu |
|
|
You have a very big challenge, but it's possible. There are things inside
Taiji that you won't be able to get from the video, but there' the book,
Tao Of Tai Chi Chuan. if you can uncipher it's meanings and with
assistance from of a Good Tai chi instructor you can accomplish great
insites. otherwise you will have only to the Tai Chi movements.
Courage to you
|
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Maria
Joined: 03 Jan 2008 Posts: 162
|
Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 8:09 am Post subject: |
|
|
 thank you Zinzivi.
and I think it's better to work with the DVD of a good Master than directly with a bad teacher 
|
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
alain

Joined: 02 Jan 2008 Posts: 65 Location: San Diego, CA
|
Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 4:27 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Hi Maria,
Out of curiosity, what forms are your learning/practicing?
|
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
feihu
Joined: 02 Jan 2008 Posts: 79
|
Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 4:36 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Maria wrote: |
Hi Feihu,
I am not JB but I think you could be interested.
I am practicing with the DVD of Master Tsao only, I go to workshops and I study the theory with the books of Grand Master Chen Zhenglei.
I like that way of studying because I can stay at home and practice as often as I want and the workshops with masters help me to correct some fundamental position.
To study the theory first is the best way to improve the practice. |
An interesting pov, Maria. No offense intended, but I don't agree with a couple of things you said.
You can practice at home as often as you want, even if you attend a class once or several times a week. Thinking you understand theory and actually being able to reproduce it physically are two entirely different things.
Seminars are good exposure to higher level teachers, but hands on corrections are nearly impossible in that setting. IMO, it is best to have good hands on corrections from day one, that way bad habits are not as easily formed, at least you get corrected to realize you have problem. But I do agree that finding a qualified teacher is not easy.
Have you ever heard of self perception disorder (SPD)? Most people I have worked with (and that includes myself, btw) have that disorder to some degree. You may think you are doing a movement correctly, but after hands on corrections you discover that you have many things that need to be fixed. Posture is one aspect, but there are other aspects such as proper jin used that only can come from a teacher through hands on corrections.
Going it alone (like you are) is difficult at best. Good for you for having the drive to stick with it though.
Good luck with your training. 
|
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Maria
Joined: 03 Jan 2008 Posts: 162
|
Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 5:07 pm Post subject: |
|
|
 Feihu
 you are right, there is just a BIG problem : I cannot find a teacher where I live !!!
When a teacher tells me first he is the best
When another one shows first he doesn't respect his own masters and tells me I could be too stupid to understand his teaching
When a third one tells me : oh you love martial art, so come let's do a real fight too see if you are good or "pay attention I practice the virile taiji"
When a fourth one tells me : oh you practice this but are you able to do that
I fly away
I do not take a regular class simply because I have no possibility too. So I learn what, where and whith whom I can 
|
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Maria
Joined: 03 Jan 2008 Posts: 162
|
Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 5:18 pm Post subject: |
|
|
 Alain
I am learning, now, lao jia yi lu and the Chen taiji sword.
I hope to attend to a 6 days seminar with Master Zhang Dongwu about taiji sword in february and I have attented to a seminar of martial application of pushhands with him 2 months ago.
I also practice the 24 form yang form, but I prefer the Chen style and I do some qigong : eight pieces of brocade and yi jin ching.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
feihu
Joined: 02 Jan 2008 Posts: 79
|
Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 5:25 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Maria wrote: |
Feihu
you are right, there is just a BIG problem : I cannot find a teacher where I live !!! |
Yes, that is a problem for many folks, unfortunately!
| Quote: |
When a teacher tells me first he is the best
When another one shows first he doesn't respect his own masters and tells me I could be too stupid to understand his teaching
When a third one tells me : oh you love martial art, so come let's do a real fight too see if you are good or "pay attention I practice the virile taiji"
When a fourth one tells me : oh you practice this but are you able to do that
I fly away
I do not take a regular class simply because I have no possibility too. So I learn what, where and whith whom I can  |
Where do you live, Maria?
Hearing your circumstances helps me understand your position and pov. I am truly sorry that you have had some bad experiences with teachers. But to be perfectly honest, I have had some similar experiences over the years myself as have many others I know. Finding a teacher who is really qualified and you click with isn't easy.
If you are out San Diego way, Jesse is a fine teacher and a very nice giving man.
Again, I wish you luck and keep on the path.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
alain

Joined: 02 Jan 2008 Posts: 65 Location: San Diego, CA
|
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Maria
Joined: 03 Jan 2008 Posts: 162
|
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
|
|
You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum
|
 Community Chest
|